Breaking Dawn Ch.1 Podcast
May 31st, 2008 | By Kallieross | Category: Podcasts
Lots-O-Spoilers!
We could not help but put together a little pow-wow with a few Twilight friends and talk about the 1st Chapter of Breaking Dawn, as well as the book’s cover! You will have to excuse some of the sound quality… with four people talking there are just so many things that have to be edited! (There will also be some funny outtakes from this show we can use later!) There is a song at the end of the show… I could not help but include a little music! It is a genre of music I normally don’t listen to much, but the lyrics fit soooooo well, I could not help but share! The song is called Succomb, by Bassboosa.
can you guys discuss about this dialogue?
“don’t be afraid” I murmured.
“we belong together”
I was abruptly overwhelemed by the truth of my own words.
This moment was so perfect,so right, there was no way to doubt this
His arms wrapped around me,holding me against him….
okay so, my problem is that who is ‘his/him’? is it edward/jacob? please try and read it.
thank you very much.
i love your podcasts!
oh. that previous reply was embarassing, uhm, i didn’t know you guys discussed it during the middle part of your podcast.sorry.
i still love your podcasts!
I first of have to say that your ladies, are great! I have been scrounging the internet for weeks just trying to find a site like this… and of course happen upon it while I wasn’t looking. I was looking for a site where I could just simply post my theories and see what other people think. I love the irony in the fact that I didn’t think to but the words “Twilight theories” into the browser. Maybe that’s not irony, just stupidity.
I read Twilight, New Moon, and Eclipse in a matter of… 54 hours, I didn’t not sleep. I started on May25th … and couldn’t be more thankful for NOT finding the series earlier! I have little patience and don’t understand how most Twilighters have held out this far BRAVO! And I have started Twilight over again and plan to re-read and ponder till Aug 2nd!!!
ANYWAY! I just wanted to blurb my theories for the Breaking Dawn cover and other things. I think the pawn and the Queen both represent Bella; as human and vampire. Pawn/Human Bella full of blood and life! And Queen/Bella strong, bright and I think the size ratio has to do with the magnitude of her power. I dunno. I love playing chess and the first thing I picked up on in the cover is that the pawn had seemed (to me) to have made it all the way to the other side of the board. In chess that mean the pawn can become any piece it was…LIKE A VAMPIRE!!!…I mean… eh-hm…Sorry, I got excited!
I personally hope for Bella NOT to become a vampire. But then again, I don’t really care for Bella in general…. Hehe. She just seems kinds… eh .. not whiney but just.. annoying. But I have to admit I am as anxious as Aro is to see what her power(s) will be!
As for other theories, I love irony and I think it would be funny if Jacob imprinted (and I think he will in Breaking Dawn) on someone totally unexpected. If Ouil can imprint on a two year old, why could Jacob imprint on a vampire? Mmmm .. IRONY! But not just any vampire but one of the females up in Denali! Seems far fetched I know, but interesting all the same.
I know everyone (and by everyone I mean my family, we argue theories) think he’ll imprint with Leah, but that seems boring. I think Leah may be the one to crash the wedding.
*Sigh* I think if anyone dies in BD, it would stink… unless it was Jane. =) But if some does out of the Cullen’s I think it maybe Jasper or Carlisle =( out of the pack …I’m think Seth or Sam (I swear If Jacob dies I TOTALLY denying it) And out of the Volturi or the Denali clan .. I don’t really care lol. But I do believe they are going to play larger roles in BD. Aro wants Edward and Alice, and Bella possibly… maybe Carlisle will die??.. hmmm =( or maybe the Cullen’s, with help, with wipe out the Volturi.
OH, one more theory! I don’t think Bella is going to lust for human blood like a newborn does and some how that ties to her power!
All done! SM is a genius!
I just love this Podcast. Alil comment on the car (Mercedes s600 Gaurd), Leah (I support the theorie that she emprinted on Jake but hes hung up on Bella until the invite to the Wedding), the whole Bella turning into a vampire thing (I think that Bella will have the same experience as Carlisle had so many years ago), & the cover (I first thought the Queen is Bella & Jake is the pawn)(I love Jake & i really wouldnt want him to go).
I have a comment on just this alone so please read before you two choose to delete it.
“PREFACE: I’D HAD MORE THAN MY FAIR SHARE OF NEAR DEATH experiences, it wasn’t something you ever really got used to. It seemed oddly inevitable, though, facing death again. Like I really was marked for disaster. I’d escaped time and time again, but it kept coming back for me. Still, this time was so different from the others. You could run from someone you feared, you could try to fight someone you hated. All my reactions were geared toward those kind of killers – the monsters, the enemies. When you loved the one who was killing you, it left you no options. How could you run, how could you fight, when doing so would hurt that beloved one? If your life was all you had to give your beloved, how could you not give it? If it was someone you truly loved?”
I think that this is about Bella & Jake because Steph has said a lot in Eclipse about something close to this. Jake might try to kill Edward is what i really think because of the treaty (maybe even Bella).
i loved that pod cast. i really like ur theory on leah imprinting with jacob bc lik in msnd. theres a forced love leah doesnt wanna be forced to love jake but! she has to bc shes imprinted with him and jake might not have imprinted with either yet but if he does with leah he’ll deny the love bc hes got his mind set on bella who he wants not what who hes ment to be with….
Okay about the red pawn I think that it might be tanya from alaska because when Bela questions Edward about the females he says that Tanya showed an interest and when Bella asked about her looks he said that she had “strawberry blonde” hair which is a type of red hair.
For one I love the show, it is nice to hear coherent conversations and speculations about twilight.
I love the cover the more I think about it. I think the chess game represents the Volturi and they are the ones moving the pieces. I think they want Bella to be a vampire for her possible powers and she is the white queen and because of how the Volturi will be effecting them they will end up using Edward as a pawn to change Bella into a vampire.
As for Bella changing, I hope it happens soon in the book so we can see through her eyes what it is like. I think the quote on the poster is not “love making” but Edward changing her which can be also seen as a form of love making because they are becoming part of each other.
WOW, I am impressed with the listener speculations of the preface! I love the whole idea of the prefae being about Jacob and Bella. Oooh, sends tingles down my spine and makes me think. hmmm…
I think the preferance is Jacob trying to kill her to prevent her from becoming a vampire.
i think the pawn is rosalie, rosalie has always been jealous for various reasons, and she will give her life to let bella live hers.
What if the preface is in Jake’s POV? I am almost positive it is. Just the writing style seems like its Jacob. I was thinking that. It totally makes sense!!!! What if Bella is trying to kill Jake there becaause its her instinct? and he still loves her no matter what but he is totally scared. ohmigod i would cry and cry for days if Bella killed Jake. I know other ppl will be screaming and jumping for joy but i would just shut myself up in my room.
I think the white chess piece is Bella as a human with her fine pale features and the red one is her transformation because her eyes will be red and she’ll be vicious as a newborn… My friend thinks that too and I hope that that’s what it means
Wow…some of the theories in the comments are really good!!! I have my own theories but i dont think you’d like them….
My theory …not my wish but my theory based on some of the things SM has said/wrote point towards that Bella will be human throughout Breaking Dawn till near the end, not what i want but….i think that she will be…i dont think that the honeymoon will happen the way they plan either..
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i think that the wedding will be significant too…that the volturi will arrive at the cerimony…not crash it, just gracefully and inconsipuously slip into seats in the back or intergrated with the humans to “try” and blend in…
I think that the events that follow will cause edward and bella not to have the honeymoon they wished for.. the volturi will “take” bella and have her changed in exchanged for edward in some way…hence the dying as the only thing to give her beloved.but not wanting to be changed by someone else…
but I dont think the volturi will expect bella to be able to control their powers (which is what I think bella will be able too do:manipulate the powers that dont affect her as a human) and she will overpower them, save edward….
the chess peices: the queen=bella, for her great power and authority, at some point i do believe the cullens will be the ruling class of vampires…not becasue they want to but because well…with the volturi gone in some great battle who else will there be?
the red pawn would be any opposition to bella: volturi, whoever…maybe to simbolize all of them? just that they are evil and bella is more powerful….
bella and edwards actual honeymoon will not be in the story(pooey, not what i want but my theory)…the epilouge will show bedward happy and together and in bella’s mind finally equal….bella will be happy she got to save the day for once…
just my theory…hope it was up to par…there was something else I was going to theororize but i forgot…ah well …hope you all liked it,
Melissa
oh and i think that the werewolves’s role in breaking dawn will be helping the cullens, i think sam will NOT want to get involved in a fiasco with the most important vampires or call attention to themselves…but when sam is killed by Irina and tanya and the rest of the denali clan to avenge laurant’s death, jacob will be in control to help bella and the cullens
so there i now added every character to my theory
oh and i think that if leah had imprinted with jake she would not still be dreaming and obsessing over sam, which she still is at the end of eclipse, jake confronts her about it when she’s giving him a bad time about missing bella, but i think she might like jake and that its a good pairing…..and might have something to do with BD…..
another theory…maybe they’ll imprint eachother when he comes back and is in charge…
i only have a question (though this maybe a little off topic) on the special edition of eclipse it came with a full color poster of the cover of breaking dawn and at the bottom theres a small excerpt like there is in all of the books “Don’t be afraid,” I murmured. “we belong together.” I was abruptly overwhelmed by the truth of my own words. This moment was so perfect, so right, there was no way to doubt it. His arms wrapped around me, holding me against him… It felt like every nerve ending in my body was a live wire. “Forever, ” he agreed. I can only help but wonder who is bella referring to; edward or jacob. (i really hope its edward!)
Thanks!
My theory with the pawn and the queen on the cover… would probably be that the queen is Bella’s new stronger character, while the red pawn represents the human life/character that she left behind. I’m so anxious to see how things turn out but i do hope jacob imprints and finds his special someone and will at least be happy. As for the topic of bella and edward i really hope they can overcome whatever obstacle that comes their way in breaking dawn as bella said in one of the books i forgot but probably new moon… (i may not quote this right) “that the bond forged between us could not be broken by absence, distance or time.”
hey! thanks for the spoiler, this july is going to be a long month! your insight and enthusiasm! are amazing a very helpful. when you guys were discussing the cover of the book, you didn’t talk about the time where alice and edward played chess the night that charlie “ungrounds” bella in eclipse. the only way reason that this section comes to mind is because alice and edward never moved their pawns/pieces because alice can see where edward will move and edward can tell what alice is thinking. eventually alice just knocks over her pawn and gives in, do you think that maybe someone might be doing the same in breaking dawn? i think that this is such a small part in book 3 and could either be very significant or not, i probably seem like a total freak but PLEASE let me know what you think! thanks.
also i really am split on mr. jacob black.
first i didn’t like him at all, then i did, now i don’t.
i sort of wish that edward kills him and bella isn’t all mopey about it, because he tries to do something um shall i say romantical (if you catch my drift) because he imprinted on bella and cant control himself. edward is pissed because um well bella is HIS and not jacob’s and jacob sort of did what bella wanted edward to do.
i think jacob is kind of a whiner. and i love bella but she needs to be nice to edward, she is letting jacob act as a friend with benefits and i think that she is hurting edward more than she knows!
I think Jocob has every right to get bella!!! Edward never should ahve so stupid as to leave her in the first place,I say edward should “give” bella to Jacob and go away! HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, here are my twilight theories for BD:
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#1: Bella will be transformed in the middle-end part of book because in all of SM’s other books, the climax is the end. And i think this time Vampire Bella will save the day, not Mortal Bella.
#2: The wedding will go without a glitch. Jacob isn’t coming back for that because he’s doing an Edward. (trying to live life without Bella) Now when he finally comes back to Forks, i don’t know if it’s gonna be that peaceful!!!
#3: Jacob will imprint on someone!!!! I don’t think SM is so cruel that Jakie won’t have a happy ending too. We know it’s not Bella, but i am thinking Tanya……actually, not Tanya, she’s not right for him. I have NO EARTHLY IDEA WHO!!!!!!!
#4: Bella’s super vampire power will be to simply be human. No thirst, same emotions and passions, but just more durable! Either that or she just can’t change at all…….
#5: The two chess pieces both represent Bella. The weak pawn is mortal Bella, red for blood and passion…..white queen is vampire Bella, powerful and royal. (Yep….i just contradicted myself…)
That’s it……….can’t wait though!!!!
ok, for me I hope to God Bella and Edward stay together,
But I hope is that the veggie vamps in cananda find jake and kill him.
but what will happen is he get is stupid fat mouth in truble and gets in deep and Bella and edward go to save him with the rest of the pack, sam gets killed and jake is the new alpha and he imprints on emily and takes up sams raigns and the volyuri come in and try to kill Bella and Jane or Alex bit her to turn her and Edward kills the one who turned her
sorry for the the bad spelling,
if the wedding has a problem I want to see Alice lay the smak down on some stupid wolf…maybe jake woill KNOW THE WRAPH OF ALICE!!!!
yeah, a quick note about the cover art, idk theres so many ways you can apply chess to the situation if you look at it in different ways, like chess is all about decisions and where you are gonna move to next.. so that can like link to the choices infront of bella in the book.. and then you can look at the figures as being people being bella in her different forms or bella and an outside enemy.. either way. but yeah, a queen can replace a pawn in chess, just like bella would be replaced by the stronger, more durable version of herself after being changed.. and like as a vampire/queen she can go anywhere, make any decisions do anything whereas when she’s a pawn she can only move in baby steps, like shes restricted in what she can do… idk random thoughts here and theyre probs wrong lol 😀 im sooo pumped for the book, 🙁 its just it comes out two days later here in aus 🙁 goddamn it! lol
What is that awesome song that you played on the end of this podcast? I love it, oh and I love you guys too!!!
I think that Bella is going to try to become a vampire but she won’t be able to transform into one and she will just be in pain for a while, then when Jacob finds out he says the quote found on the Stephenie Meyer website that he would just kill her himself, which explains Carlisle saying that hes seen the vampire venom work wonders but there were som econditions that it cannot overcome(also on the website under the quotes of the day).
I dont know what will happen from there……
lol =) I cant wait til the book comes out!!
i think that the queen and pawn represente bella and jacob. bella as the queen and jacob as the pawn. every step she takes 2wards edward she takes away from jacob
i think that the chess pieces represente the fact that bella has such control over her thirst for blood